will trust him. he's led himself into a pariah state status both politically and economically, so there are no clear exit ramps now. this will now become the art of diplomacy, and the art of trying to give him a way out while keeping him under the pressure of the sanctions and the political isolation. that's a tough call. >> i'm curious, to walk that line, say helsinki said today we want finland in nato and the helsinki government said we're applying formally. i had admiral stavridis on saying if they applied on today, they should approve it by friday. how fast do you think the process would work with finland? and, two, how walking that line of would putin view that as escalatory by the west even if we're doing it in response to a nation in distress?