forward-leaning on the voting bills themselves. she was a co-sponsor of the for the people act, but she's tougher on the willingness to make rules adjustments. she wrote a piece in "the washington post" last june about why she wouldn't abolish the filibuster. in my discussions with her, my point is we don't have to abolish the filibuster. senate rules are often changed. you don't have to abolish the filibuster. would you be open to restoring it to what it used to be or other paths that facilitate passage? and again, there's no deal yet. there won't be one until we announce there's a deal, but the discussions are very cordial and candid and respectful. and she is very worried. arizona was the first of the states that got challenged. the electoral vote challenged on january 6th. damaging those democracy attacks are. >> look, you're a guy that always seems to -- that if