keep emphasizing. most certainly, this is very different. this is classic coercive diplomacy. trying to get diplomatically things as you just said, through the barrel of a gun. >> you helped prepare president biden for his last meeting with president putin. if you were preparing him this time, what would you warn him going into this meeting? >> number one, and i think they've already moved to this. if you go back to that meeting, recall the president biden used to say we want to a stable and predictable relationship with russia. i applauded the effort, but let's be honest. putin doesn't want a stable and predictable relationship with the united states. so i think you just have to set that aside. number two, i would like to see the biden administration be more explicit ahead of time. very explicit, what they will do should putin use military force against ukraine. you've heard about sanctions. you've heard about veiled threats behind closed doors.

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