points in 2016 which surprised me. by the time we got to 2020 it was down to seven points. that is a huge shift and tells you, we've talked to people on the ground in this county for five years now on and off. it's real. what we are seeing in those numbers is real. the republican party is unsettled there, not really sure if they like the direction. >> they're not democrats. this is what is messing up the party and their ability to govern is one piece of their coalition, don't want a lot of taxes. i don't want trump but they don't want that. >> this is the kind of place where you could see a big difference between where they go, how they feel about donald trump versus if you get a moderate republican in a senate race there that could -- >> then our big maricopa of this year, duval, which is basically a slightly smaller version than maricopa, the megasuburb that