noise of that nation building in afghanistan. and now people say after 20 years and billions and billions of dollars spent that nation building didn't succeed, so we have no interests and that is simply false. we had a presence in afghanistan to protect american civilians. not to do charity work for the afghanistans. >> so in hindsight the original sin may have been the war in iraq? perhaps we would have had the political will to do what you suggested? >> there was a lot of parties involves. don't think iraq distrafficked from afghanistan. i think it was the obama add --