foreign and defense policy studies at the american enterprise institute. yes, and also an msnbc contributor. that's a lot of title we just threw out. >> i know. >> we got to get you some more title. leanne and saheel, i want to get at how are we going to get you all this done? >> it's an insurmountable task. we only have a few weeks to fund the government. this is happening with this impeachment inquiry and as jeff mentioned, the president has an incentive for the government shutdown. he can change the -- the -- the topic of the conversation to his pet issues, which are the wall, immigration. distract away from impeachment. then again, there is usmca. there is one thought about that nafta 2.0 that perhaps nancy pelosi has more of an incentive to get it passed because she can show -- then show -- that she can walk and chew gum at the same time. >> and that's the thing she would choose to use as that proof. >> because a lot of her members want that to pass as well.