Under president donald trump, Christopher Miller he served in the position immediately following the 2020 election until President Biden took office. He is out this week with a new book titled, soldier secretary. Warnings from the battlefield and the pentagon about americas most dangerous enemies when we watched on january 6th, did you not than have any concerns coming out of that day . About how far trump could potentially go, when you saw what happened up on capitol hill, you sounded like you were very calm . I just never saw any indications of that. I was not on the political side, or remember, we put 25 National Guard troops on capitol hill, way after that was going on, so the dynamics changed considerably. I never once thought that the president was going to try to stay in power beyond inauguration. So lets talk about drewsville for. There those are over there late. I completely disagree with, you jonathan, and wait, go ahead, im sorry, im in your house, i should let you i should not interrupt. Im sorry. This is the exchange we want to have. [inaudible] so walk us through the timeline. Former president trump, he says, we have to have a lot of trips, their big crowd, im taking the steps that i need to keep the process in the city safe. Can you clarify for us, what happened . Did you ever get that sort of order . The president absolutely said provide whatever Military Support is required, to protect the dynamics for the protesters that. Day people characterize that he said that you . Yes. To me. So you were talking to him during the no, days prior. On 16, the president gave me all the authority are needed. Green berets, bushel operator, i had all i had mission intent. And i had everything i needed. So you said, up to, you never saw any indication that he wanted to continue his presidency beyond the fact that he lost. Now, looking back, do you see that he did . No, i dont. The question youre asking is i saw the 16 committee, and i participated, i did, what, eight and a half hours of testimony, a diverse in the house, eight hours in the senate. And i never once felt that there was a political factor here, you guys will know more about it than ill ever know. Im just talking about donald trump wanting to stay on the on the under this presidency. And let me clarify here looking back with all the information that is available to us via that he was trying to continue his presidency beyond his duration. He lost. And he was trying to stay in power. Do you see that now . Do i see that no . I see a lot of accusations, hes been impeached, we have the 16 committee thing. Im still open minded. But, you know, i sound like im spinning, youre looking at me theres a lot of evidence, and very, very clear information. He even says it now. Im still learning, and thats all right. I got harangued when i was up in the house, oversight committee, heres a question im trying to find. Heres a question i want to answer, that i dont think has been answered. Was the president involved in a conspiracy directly . You just said you had all the power you needed to deploy the forces in january the 6th. When micah and i were watching it, when general powell was watching it, when im sure everyone at this table was watching it, we saw the lights go on for a couple, hours we were all asking the same thing. Where the hell is the National Guard . Where the hell or the troops . Weve already told jonathan you dont think you waited too long. Please explain to us your thoughts, and why you delayed past a time when most of us were we became very uncomfortable. With that decision making. So, i think what we found, i think one of the best things that came out of the 16 hearings, was the timeline. Because for the long time we could not see it or show it on tv. Its so confusing, and thats the nature of these things. Its hard to tell whats going on. But about 2 35, when it was finally the capitol hill police, congressional leadership, making the decision to request the National Guard. A 2 35 to 35, i kind of did this and for those of you who said, why didnt the president give you the call, you say he had already given you the power. Yes. To do this . But you say you he gave you the power to have all the trips necessary to protect the demonstrators. Was there something about a different stream of protecting the demonstrators, and protecting the capitol . Yes because the capital is a legislative branch, its a separate branch, our present the executive branch, the military, you do not go to capitol hill with the military unless youre invited by congressional leadership. If you do need different its called a Military Coup and i was really concerned about that. Im wondering whether i should look back you are fighting the last where you didnt want to over miller ties. But at the end, my gosh, our capital got overrun. That count of been the right outcome. I understand or you got there, with that count of been the right outcome. First off, david, it wasnt a war because the armed forces of the United States dont fight their fellow citizens except during civil war. We werent even close to that. Thats kind of the hyperbole that bothers me a lot of these conversations. So it wasnt a war. These people who are exercising their constitutional rights, were absolutely concerned about Miss Utilization. Remember, you guys live in the city, or some of you do. The National Department was flying helicopters down the streets to harass, rightfully constitutionally protected demonstrated. I was absolutely concerned about Miss Utilization of the National Guard. He was a hyper partisan environment. There was no way i was going to force the armed forces in this political frame beyond what they already were. I understand what youre seeing, i understand the questions, and i thank you for letting me have my piece finally, to say these things. I was horribly concerned it would be overly militarized. As that day progresses, and you have just crazy people storming the capital, banging fewer windows, brutally attacking cops yeah, it just seems like its accidental or memories. Youre in the pentagon, youre watching it, what do you think in . I know that the military was going to that the in the preparation for all of this, the police said that they can handle between 1 million demonstrators, and david, on those calls when you see the police youre talking about the days the d. C. Police . The d. C. Police. I have ultimate respect for chief conte. He had all hands on deck. He took people to the hospital. He was standing on the corner. But if you watch that, you know it had law on Law Enforcement said they could handle up to 1 million demonstrators. It was very clear to me in this conversation, that there was a Thought Bubble going off about, like, theyre talking politically, nice, but the Thought Bubble was keeping the dog on military off the street. 10,000 people, with david but you gather, the mayor of washington d. C. Said the morning of january 6th for us, go ahead 10,000 cops in the street, thats a Light Infantry Desert division. We took panama with 10,000. I think they can control washington d. C. That is not the role of the armed forces. This is the key thing. I keep harping on this, its my calling, till the day i die, is the armed forces should never be used for domestic Law Enforcement until Civil Disorder has broken out. Your question now is what happened on capitol hill . I dont know who we still know how many cops were up there . I wish i could do it all again, i absolutely would, he would be great if the cavalry wouldve rhoden and save the day. But when i step back now, i have a different depression now. Two plus years to think about this. I am so grateful, and im so satisfied that our soldiers, and airmen, in this case, were not writing american citizens. And thats what we have cops for. And we only use, people dont join the military to fight their own citizens. So it was a tragic tragedy, a horror day for america. We will be right back. Back. Allergies dont have to be scary. screaming defeat allergy headaches fast with new Flonase Headache and allergy relief two pills relieve Allergy Headache Pain . And the congestion that causes it Flonase Headache and allergy relief. Psst psst all good age is just a number, and mines unlisted. Try boost® high protein with 20 grams of protein for Muscle Health versus 16 grams in ensure® high protein. Boost® high protein. Now available in cinnabon® bakeryinspired flavor. 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Met a new piece in the bulwark, entitled, can this, black latina, progressive, Pro Police Da turn San Francisco around . She has this to say about our next guest, quote, over the past two years, the city has oscillated wildly, electing one of the most leftwing prosecutors in the country in 2020. Then recalling him along with a bunch of other locals officials later. Now theyre trying a different approach. And many are hoping that the citys new District Attorney, a biracial 41 year old east bay mom, offers a synthesis of Crime Stopping and criminal Justice Reform, that can be the answer. So through this the San FranciscoDistrict Attorney joins us now. What an answer. What do you think you can do differently and the twopronged approach that you are taking towards crime . Yes. And thank you for having me. Right, i think that as we know, democrats, liberals, progressives, want to make sure that we are doing everything to make our criminal Justice System more fair. But as human beings, we also want to feel safe, so what ive tried to offer them is the approach ive used over the last eight years as a prosecutor in the courtroom. Which, is responsible methods of alternatives to incarceration, while still making sure that we have accountability for those that commit crime. One of the things that i think is really interesting, because National Politics are reporting here. The kinds of things youre talking about, that striking a balance between criminal Justice Reform and being you know, pro police, and defunding the police, biden talked about that in the statement. The union address. And that is something that National Democrats have been trying to figure, out how do you strike that balance . It is something that can bond into a national movement. How can democrats talk about it and legislate these kinds of issues . Absolutely. I believe that we have to push forward with democrats to make sure that the laws that we enact, the legislation that we enact, supports a society where we could have order, when we can a public safety, and we emphasize it as a part of our platform. Simply talking about the fact that we need a farm and then doing away with assistance that we need in order to keep us safe is not going to be sufficient anymore. Good morning District Attorney jenkins, great to have you on the show. So, theres a lot of people, as you know, residents in San Francisco who feel like a truly great city in San Francisco has lost its way in the last couple years with hopeless homelessness, property drug use, people walking in stores taking whatever they want. How do you begin, and what do you need, and to reverse that idea about where your city is right now . Right now, ive got to enforce consequences for a period of time. Over the last two years, people committing crime here felt there was no threat of being caught. And even if they were caught by police, there was no true threat of a consequence. So ive had to come in and completely shift that narrative. Schiff that reality. To make sure that they understand, yes, there is accountability. There are consequences. And work closely with the Police Department to ensure that we are arresting as many people as we can, as this lawlessness continues. So we are having to work together, collaboratively, to make sure that we are moving the ball forward. So that everybody understands, residents, business, owners that we are not tolerating this city anymore. And those committing the crimes understand they probably should think to do it elsewhere. One of the things you said, is your, down i think the numbers were 600 Police Officers in your department, jobs you need to fill, people look at the job and say, well they dont even give us the tools to do the job, we arrest somebody, the rock on the street with the elimination of cash bail and all of that. Thats not a driver monstrous student. And you convince Police Officers to sign up, train, during the academy, and work in your city . Youre absolutely correct. We are all down almost 600 officers here in San Francisco, and have tried to do my best to go around, actually, to each of the police stations, to tell the Rank And File directly, that we are now a das office that appreciates the work that they do. Of, course we want them to engage in proper and appropriate a fair and fair policing but when they do, bring us the case make sure theres appropriate accountability. Some of the things that have been working against people being interested in becoming Police Officers are not just das who refused to hold criminals accountable. But also legislators, both at the local and state level, making it very difficult for them to do their jobs. So we just have to make sure that when we look work to make systems more bare, we dont do away with the tools that we need in order to keep our public safe completely. District attorney jenkins lets talk for a moment if you will about repeat offenders. And judges perhaps letting them back out on the streets much earlier than prosecutors suggest they should with sentences. How does that complicate your job . What solutions do you have . It certainly is a factor. And weve been going in and particular on the fentanyl issue, asking better while our cases are open. Initially we were not getting much traction at all with the course, and we found overtime weve had to enhance and go in on our arguments to make sure that they truly understand the dangers that these individuals present, who are selling one of the most of the drugs youve overseen in america. But we are always having to make strong arguments, to our courts so that they understand the dangers of individuals present who are before them. And continue to likely face some challenges with having them understand those situations, and make rulings that we believe are appropriate. But we are going to keep that we will be right back. ® high protein. Boost® high protein. Now available in cinnabon® bakeryinspired flavor. Learn more at boost. Com tv people remember ads with a catchy song. So to help you remember that Liberty Mutual customizes your home insurance, heres a little number youll never forget. Customize and save. Only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. 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