polling, people forget, a year about now. as steve kornacki and just laid out, trump has got the wig, and particularly in iowa, where desantis has spent most of his time, money, and effort, to try to get that evangelical vote, and failed miserably. talk to us about how surprised you have been, if you've been surprised, by how this battle between trump and desantis has in fact played out over the course of the last year, with desantis going down and trump going nowhere but up? >> i kind of have two minds of, it my sort of 2022 midterm mind when rhonda scent is was riding high, the pandemic was in the fall front, he won by 20 points. at that point in time, if you would've told me years where we are a year from now, i would've genuinely been surprised. it became clear very quickly, starting with his late may roll out of his presidential campaign and that it was going to be tough sledding. by no means do i think -- perfect presidential campaign, but as quickly as donald trump sort of pulled the power in sort of the reigns of the