biden campaign is betting on the debate to change the trajectory of the race, believing americans will hear trump talk about revenge, how it is justified, and be repelled by it. my question to you, donny, is their bet right? this is a static race to this point. for the most part, we can say, it's close, but trump has had narrow but consistent leads in most of the battleground states. do we think this argument here, frankly, this dangerous argument of revenge, will change their minds? >> i think two great things happen as a result of the trial for the biden campaign. one was the guilty verdict. two, this has put trump on a path that this is all he can talk about. you never hear the words inflation, immigration, or crime or any of the talking points he would usually use. he is consumed with this now. i think even now, we're a week or eight days out of the trial, this is all he can talk about.
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