that's just not the government they have. what they say is -- she doesn't say this directly, and i will say this and a lot of democrats are telling me this, joe biden's approval ratings are sinking. he had problems in afghanistan. he's at a tough point in his presidency, and he needs a win. democrats said that in the meeting last night. i mean, they said we need to deliver joe biden. i think colin allred of texas said we need to deliver joe biden a victory. what progressives would say is we have time to deliver him a victory and it doesn't have to be right now. those are the very complicated dynamics coming out at this moment. >> jake, stay with us. we want to get your take on another huge issue weighing over capitol hill, the debt ceiling. the latest on that fight next on "morning joe." ♪♪ (vo) this is a place for ambition.