that was based on our reporting in that conversation. >> and, tell us, bob costa, tell us what you know about the pressure that was put on mike pence and anyone else on the administration or members of the nate to try to help trump stay in the presidency, even after he had lost. >> our book documents how vice president quail, he navigates the decision, what's most interesting to us is the new information we discovered on how the legal side of the trump's team. they're trying to convince the vice president president and his team to de-certify president-elect trump's victory at the time.