republicans are actually no longer even talking about raising taxes as being the central focus point of this plan because they realize, i've talked to a lot of republicans about it, that it no longer plays to talk about raising taxes. that the spending is actually the more potent political argument for republicans. so that bolsters your contention that this is actually no longer an unpopular proposition to be raising taxes on super wealthy and corporations. so that is new because for the last 20 years since you were in congress, i would say that the tax argument was a much more potent argument for republicans. >> if i were campaigning in any congressional district in any district across america, i would love my opponent, republican or democratic, to stand up and say, i don't think we should make amazon pay taxes. hey, i really don't think we should make billionaires stop being able to build up their loopholes to continue this