will not produce documents. that makes an investigation hard. there's no reason to believe, and, remember, it took us four months to get a court to say that don mcgahn needs to show up. that decision is being appealed. there's no reason to believe that if we went that route that donald trump wouldn't play this out for, you know, four, five, six, a year. and, of course, the key point is, as you've said, the evidence is really very clear now about the abusive power. and certainly about the contempt of congress involved in what i was just talking about saying, i don't like this impeachment so i'm not going to cooperate. that obviously in and of itself is clearly a fact and an impeachable offense. >> congressman, we have a second judiciary committee hearing today. can you walk us through a little bit as to what we should expect to hear, you know, white house has declined to participate yet again. what do you think americans who are perhaps confused by some of what the hearing last week with some of the scholars, what do you think they'll hear today