nuking of hurricanes and also the trump campaign yesterday putting out a solicitation letter saying it's our country, not the country of these women of color who are in congress. how hard did you push general mattis and what was -- what was the most revealing moment during the interview for you? >> well, i pushed hard, but i knew that he was committed to this idea that he owes the country some level of silence on the particulars of trump's character and especially of his own experience in the white house. he wants this to be understood as a book about leadership and management. what i said to him is that's very fine and you have a lot to offer, but the country right now -- you know, a nation turns its lonely eyes to him in a kind of way. he has more knowledge of donald trump's character, ability, decision-making process than