volunteerism, enlistments in the army. my own son graduated from harvard that june and joined the army. that spirit seems to have been lost. one of the questions fdr asked in the middle of world war ii when people are grumbling about rationing, only five gallons a week, one cup of coffee a day. he said what is a nation? a nation is when we feel like we're doing something for the common purpose, the common good, we're willing to sacrifice because we believe in the nation. we're at a war. we're at a war with this enemy of covid. where is the national spirit that we're in this together, the collective identity we've shown in so many other crises in the country. that's what i keep waiting to emerge. >> what do you think, george. >> we're exhausted from warness, war on poverty, wore on drugs. martial law means we get in line and obey orders. that's not the way we are