is a distraction and it seems to be once again this effort of muddying the waters to create confusion, particularly among independent voters who might not be following this closely and there is an indication from a lot of the president's supporters that they feel rudy was effective at that in mueller and here we see him doing that again. >> but the truth matters, doug. and even if polls aren't moving today, they could move tomorrow. and even if they don't, isn't it important to press this? rudy giuliani dangling evidence that he never provides. >> look, i mean, he's a conman. i don't know why we're giving him much credibility. he's a con man who has been off the rails for years and he's been pushing lies for months related to the vice president. and really he is pushing russian propaganda. this notion that ukraine hacked the dnc and that they have the server, that comes right from moscow. he is essentially acting as a russian agent here and i think
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