mr. jordan, you may not like the witness' answer -- >> there wasn't an answer. >> mr. jordan, we will hear the witness' answer. have you concluded mr. holmes? >> i have. >> dr. hill, mr. holmes, thank you for your testimony. dr. hill, you made a fairly dramatic comment in your opening statement to which the ranking member took some exception. i'm more interested in the ukraine piece of this, but you said some of you on this committee believe that rusha and security services did not conduct and perhaps somehow for some reason ukraine did. i'm interested in the ukraine piece of this. i do want defend you briefly. i don't know what my colleagues believe, but i do have a pretty good sense of what the effects are of creating ambiguity and lacking clearty a tt tt tty and around the attack of 2016. in response to your comment, the ranking member offered up a

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