here he is. >> is this a policy you can support? >> absolutely not. this is an impulsive decision by the president that has undone all the gains we've made. i hope i'm making myself clear how short-sighted and irresponsible this position is in my view. >> you seem to think that senator graham is correct. we have seen the president just at the end of last year back off of a similarly planned prove. do you think that the pressure from senator graham and others could be enough to change his mind or are those guardrails gone and this is it? >> well, obviously we're missing some guardrails and that's why we get a lot of this impulsiveness. but yeah, he could change his mind tomorrow if enough senators come forward and hold to their positions. i love what senator graham had to say today, but i have no idea what he's going to say tomorrow. and by the way, he was playing golf with the president just a week ago when this was all