president trump's intentions. the president has been crystal clear, no quid pro quos of any kind. you, sir, just met with bill taylor when you were in kiev last week. what did you learn from him about that exchange? >> well, the moment that that became public, we happened to be greeting mr. taylor on our way to the ministry of defense. and it's absolutely clear, he said, yep, that's what i said. we didn't go into it any further. we didn't have the resulting tweet. but we know taylor did the right thing, he pushed back against what was clearly an effort by the trump administration to strong-arm and put pressure on the new president to do the investigations, to dig up dirt on biden. that was very, very clear. i'm very pleased that ambassador taylor is doing the right thing, and he needs to testify, also. all of the exchanges that preceded that text that he sent out needs to be out into the public and part of the