understand that expression in a new way. but thank you. >> thank you. >> i want to ask you about the day you were let go. and i know this is a painful series of events so forgive me but i think it's very important. it's april 24th and you -- you -- you told us a few things that really stuck with me. you said you were at the embassy in ukraine. you were honoring a ukrainian woman, anti-corruption activist. i believe her name is katerina, am i saying that correctly? >> i was at my house. yeah. >> excuse me. and you were giving her the woman of courage award i believe. >> yeah. embassy kiev's woman of courage award. >> right. and of course, that's the day you get a call from carol perez, a senior member of the foreign service, did you know carol perez? >> yes. >> you're both senior women in the foreign service. you had an opportunity to meet her before? >> yes. >> and she says there's trouble coming. want to give you a heads up. correct me if i get this wrong