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winfield. one of the ten people killed in a mass shooting of a grocery store on may 15th. yesterday, the president and first lady were down in uvalde, texas where they met for hours with families of the 19 young children and two teachers who were killed in last week's school shooting. which of course came just ten days after buffalo. as biden left the church service in uvalde, he was met by a crowd of people chanting, do something. he responded by telling the crowd, we will. the president sounded a very similar note in the commence speech this weekend at university of delaware, telling graduates that the country can and must do something. >> let's be clear, evil came to the elementary school classroom in texas, to that grocery store in new york and far too many places where innocents have died. in the face of such forces, we have to stand stronger. we must stand stronger. we cannot outlaw tragedy, i know. but we can make america safer. >> but let's be honest, optimism is in short supply on whether congress will do anything at all. even as protests rage throughout the weekend, outside of the nra conference that took place in houston, inside of the event, donald trump himself another republican political leaders were refusing any and all calls for gun reform. much of the attention right now remains on the law enforcement response to the shooting at robb elementary in texas. the justice department announced it will conduct a review of the response after it became abundantly clear that officers waited for over an hour before they stormed the classroom where the gunman was. during that excruciating wait, children inside of the room called 9-1-1 repeatedly, pleading for help. as families wait for clarity on what exactly happened, and more importantly, what went wrong inside of the school, the nation is waiting to see if lawmakers will manage any legislative response to the shooting. tomorrow, funerals will begin in that small texas town for the many victims. a funeral service will be held tomorrow for a ten year old my tehran-geles, who is an honor student, recognized for her achievements at a school ceremony that very, day that morning before the shooting. on wednesday, there will be a joint funeral for irma garcia, one of the two teachers killed in the massacre and for her husband joe. it's hard to even think about it. he collapsed and died just two days later. many people, he said, he died from the grief. they leave for children behind. nbc sam brock's reporting for us in uvalde. he's reporting for us now. sent, thank you for being there. i want to start by asking, what has this been like for you? you've been in this town for days now. >> it feels like we are seeing this pain play out over and over again. it's the theoretical, stephanie. people talk about how it's so horrible that this happens in denver, upstate new york, new york, florida, you pick your location. it always seems like it's the other and not happening to us. but you talk to the family members here and they say, a reality, the perception of what is possible is shattered. and it certainly feels like that for someone who is on the ground and talking for them as well. because the pain itself is indescribable. you could see it on their faces. i am watching families walking up to this plaza behind me. see, there's a fountain with so many flowers and gifts for those who are greeting. it's, that many fee tie, because people care that much about trying to provide some level of consolation. or some level of support to those experiencing pain. by the same token, they are confused. everyone here is confused. as for the time limit offense that there is not a school resource officer on campus when it all broke out. why a school board was left open. the budget here in uvalde had been doubled, stephanie, previous years. trying to really show up security issues. they had active training drills two months prior before this all started. so, as you talk to the families, one of, them i spoke to grandmother to the ten year old child and you can immediately understand envision her future someone who love song and dance. she had a beautiful voice. she loved softball with her grandfather, and he bought a glove. this is a kid with all the potential in the world. and her life has been cut short. the grandfather wrote a letter to president biden, who was in town yesterday, give it to elliana's mom, his daughter, to give to president biden. here is what the letter says. >> well, i was, you know like, i hear her say, we are -- unruly, we are not anymore. >> he has power to change it. and he can do it. he can. and it needs to change. because how many more lives are going to be taken? other families are going to lose their children or their nieces, their cousins -- >> two weeks ago, we were playing here, playing here! i bought her new glove. she never had the chance of putting it on and again. >> stephanie, no one here doubts the fact that it was an 18 year old who decided out of his own volition to go out and buy two ar-15 style rifles, and to commit this act. but, they also want some form of an explanation from law enforcement here, from the local police department and school district police department from pete arredondo, who is the chief. who was just elected city council to explain what is thought process and rational was like. and decided to keep federal agents from going into the school as they sat there for 30 minutes. there was a city council meeting that was scheduled for tomorrow, 6:00. that is been canceled. so, again, i believe for day three or four now, not a word, not just from the state, but not from the city for the last week, stephanie in the aftermath of this last tragedy. stuff? >> is there any reason why they would council that council meeting? i cannot imagine a week that is more important where people need answers. >> that is the problem. it is that we have seen what's up in when they held press conferences. it just bonds more questions. the criticism heightens for public officials. specifically when it comes down to how this became a barricade situation versus active shooter. because, as you talk to experts and law enforcements, stephanie, they'll explain that it lasts less than five minutes. because ever since columbine, the guidance has changed for what law enforcement officers are supposed to do when there is a threat of someone being killed. so, they are going to have to answer those questions. and with each day that goes by, i cannot tell you what's in their head in terms of accountability and explaining what transpires. another day goes by, another day where they're not standing in front of a microphone to try to tell all of the people live in this community how this could've transpired the way did it did. and again, i will state, a shooter decided to pick up a weapon and go and devastate families for the rest of their lives. but, there also has to be some sort of explanation, some sort of, it, lisa review. there was a federal review that's moving forward, now. it's pretty rare. department justice, this critical review has only happened in the last several years, a couple of times, orlando is one of the most recent examples. they are looking right now at death practices. there is evidence that it was not followed. we want to know, people who live in this community, just want to know. why not? >> well, the most important person in the federal government was in uvalde yesterday, the president. how is the community reacting? >> i think that they were very glad to see him here. he spent hours meeting with families. there is images of president biden wiping tears away to his face when you talk to the families themselves about what they are expecting. they want to do something. and as we, know the president can issue executive orders. but you're not gonna issue an executive order to take assault rifles off of the street. that has to be an act of congress. there's only so much the president can do. i will say that we would like to hear more from him. but, actually trying to lean on federal politicians to an act, as you, said some form of a bipartisan package of gun reform, if that's even possible. we've had this conversation several times in recent years after the worst chapter of murder in american history some schools. whether it's parkland or newtown. and we all know the end result. which is nothing got done. people here say, this, time it has to be different. there's no other option. because it will happen again in another city of action does not take. >> sam brock, thank you so much for being there, for reporting on this really important story. i appreciated. i want to bring it to our conversation, texas state senator, his district includes uvalde. senator, here we are again. you and i talking for the third time in the last five days. tell us what the last few days have been like for you. day one was just simply shock throughout the community. here we are as the days are passing. what are people telling you they want and need the most? >> so, it is day seven now, stephanie. at the end of the day, this community needs therapy. they need love. they need attention. we need resources. i have asked the governor to send me $2 million to fund a community health clinic for behavioral health so that we can pay therapist that are going to live in uvalde, work in uvalde, world mental health is a very big challenge. constituents are talking about raising the school. i had that conversation with the president, as well. he is committed to me. his death is committed to me. we will work on a federal grant to raise the school. it is said that one exist, there is up to 45 million dollar grant to raise schools that have undergone this type of calamity. disturbing to say the least. but, we are here to make sure that they know that we are not leaving. we are going to make sure that we get all the resources to them as soon as possible. >> mental health support should be helpful going forward. but, people are still stuck, rightfully so on the past. do you have more answers for us on what went wrong with law enforcement? the timing! it's amazing to me, the conference that was supposed to be held tomorrow, the city council meeting, it's already been canceled. >> so, i welcome further investigation by dps. i certainly welcome the federal investigation. i had a very long and heated conversation with mcfaul on saturday morning. we were both in tears. i, particularly find it disappointing that we are pointing the finger at one cop. i don't know this man. but, the fact is that every cop that was there violated the active shooter protocols. we want -- there is this narrative that the cop with the six officers below him was calling the shots. at what point does the next agency takeover? and the next agency with more firepower, ammunition and people take over? even the federal government, when they arrived, they didn't go charging it. it took them a few minutes. and so, there was a failure at every level here. that is why this federal investigation needs to happen. that is why these families want to know. i'm gonna tell you an incredibly sad story. one of the families that i have spoken to, most of these kids are unfortunately riddled and really devastatingly hurt. this one child had only one bullet wound through the kidney area. she likely blood out according to the first responders. and we got in the 20, 30 minutes before this child might have been alive. we have to get answers so that this never happens again. so that we can find the best practices so that no family has to go through the agony that these families went through as they waited outside for over an hour to let law enforcement figure out when, if they were going to going. >> then, let's make sure you and i are not advancing any false narratives out there. but, your estimation, everything that you have learned over the last seven days, you are there on the ground. what do you think happened? >> i know that at 12:03, as you, know there were 19 officers in the hallway that apparently were repelled by some form of gunfire and decided not to go in. we were told, wrongly, there was negotiations. and the fact is that person never uttered a word to law enforcement. so, that was not true. would i have asked mcgraw to give me is not just the ballistics report that he wants to give me about friendly fire, i don't care about that so much. i want to know how many officers were in that building, what time they were in that building and when and where they were situated. i saw no officers, as yet, on the outside windows. they haven't told us anything about. that ever since friday's report, we have not heard anything. three days, four days have gone by since friday. and we have gotten -- i got another report from dps us to where the officers were and where they were working in the other agencies. the agencies had greater manpower, greater firepower, greater ammunition, more people and we need to ascertain these important facts. these families deserve it. >> 19 officers were in the building at 12:03. they left. and what do we know the outcome was? 19 children and two teachers were killed. i know that your republican governor, greg abbott was given a news conference on friday, and you personally interrupted him. you asked him to call a special session of the legislature to do something about guns. have you gotten any response? >> i've gotten no response from greg abbott, he's holed up in his office and some people think maybe i should have done. that maybe it wasn't the right time. let's be really clear, we've. had six or seven in texas. after each and every one of them we do the thoughts and prayers thing. and yet, nothing, nothing, nothing gets done. he is very proud of the school hardening of 2019. we can see what happened there. we cannot allow greg abbott or any republican an office that is bought and paid for by the nra to escape this moment. i am asking this governor to bring us back. i want to tell you another number, today is day 77. we are 77 days from the first school start in texas. i am not -- this isn't a challenge. i'm not playing a game here. we need to get back into the capital. we need for things done. we need wait periods. we need red flag laws. we need to have magazine capacities. and more importantly, we need to raise this age limit. how an 18 year old was able to access these kinds of weapons of mass destruction is beyond me. it is harder to get baby formula in texas than it is to buy an ar-15. sir, something has happened after all the shootings. over the last couple of years, gun laws has become more relaxed in the state of texas. do you think this horrific event is not only going to change the way they see things, but it is it going to change the lines of texan voters? >> i've already heard from third parties, that some of my colleagues in the republican controlled senate, are suggesting that we need to make the schools more secure. didn't we already do that? then we do that in 2019? apparently we need more mental illness. let's fund that, because that's a component. but at the end of the day, this is an access to militarized weaponry that it should not be. i have republican constituents calling me and saying let's raise the age limit. i have no problem with a waiting limit, with red flags. the only constituents that greg is listening to is the nra. he is a coward! let's be real clear! this man, has made it easier and easier for people to access this kind of weaponry. last session during the open carry bill that they passed, where the last speaker spoke. in the last ten seconds i said, because of this bill, more kids will die! i never thought that that hyperbole was going to be realized in my own community. i think i'm living in a horror film. >> senator, i am sorry to hear you say that. and i'm sorry for what you're going through right now. thank you for joining us right now, roland. i appreciate it. we're gonna have much more on this throughout the hour. the frustration felt by democrats, and some republicans. and more importantly, a whole lot of americans, about the lack of action after recent mass shootings. the big question? 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>> we're not gonna send ukraine rocket systems that could strike into russia. >> so if that is off the table, the big question is what is? what other measures are still being considered in terms of helping ukraine win the war? let's discuss. i am joined now by washington state democratic congressman, adam smith, he is the chairman of the armed services committee. thank you for joining us on this very important day. i want to start with the presidents most recent remarks, saying, that we will melt not sent ukraine weapons that will reach russian? >> i think it was an offhand remark. the question can be interpreted in two ways. we simply do not support ukraine targeting russia, but when you're talking about artillery shells and missiles, ukraine is right on the border with russia. anything that we send them could target russia. once that larger range could target it in a better way. but the point of the missiles as not to attack russia, it's that the russia's are attacking. as you know, the fighting is focus in the east, to some degree in the south. they've launched attacks as far as away as lviv. certainly in kyiv and elsewhere. so if ukrainians have longer range missiles they can defend against those attacks. but we'll have to see about what the policy is. i don't know what the president marked answer to that question, it's a more marked question then they implied. >> is there any more that the u.s. could be doing that they are not? that you think we should be? >> well, to answer that question, you have to understand that the basic principle that president biden laid out from the start. that's doing everything possible to help ukraine. but the one thing that we will not do is start a war with russia. obviously, we could be sending troops to the ukraine. we could send the u.s. forces and equipment. but we're not gonna do that. i think within the parameters, we're not going to directly fight russia. i believe right now, we are doing everything that we can. as we're scrambling to find the systems that can help ukraine, u.s. symptoms are are amongst our many allies. some which are crucial. the president and his team, the defense secretary of state, have built a coalition that is also providing a large amount of equipment, humanitarian assistance. so, i think the president has done an excellent job to date of organizing that effort in helping ukraine in this fight. >> obviously, our federal government is super focused on this. but, there you are in washington state. you're not in d.c. right now, you're dealing with voters, constituents every day. do you believe that the american people are still invested in this war? >> right now, i think they are. but i think it is a very legitimate question. for how long? can putin still out weight us and the destruction down on ukraine until fissures show up in the coalition. and it's not just what's going on in the u.s., as you mentioned, hungary is standing in the way of an oil embargo. turkey is raising questions about finland and sweden coming into nato. it is gonna take a lot of work to hold this coalition together. but the good news is that the ukrainians are putting up an incredible fight, and they are actually pushing russia back. we saw there in kyiv, we see that in kharkiv, as it's supported yesterday, there is a new and pensive launched in kherson in the south. where the russians have held. i think the coach can hold together. but it is not easy. there are -- across the world. we just have to remind people what this active aggression works. the messages sent that in china you still can't take territory by brute force. and it goes all across the world, and it impacts all of us. it's not just ukraine being impacted by this, as much as they need and deserve our help. >> put the nato coalition aside, and let's talk about the u.s., for example. because midterms are around the corner. and i want to share some information we got. when asked what people think the most important problem facing the our country is, 20% said the government and poor leadership. 17% mention the high cost of living, inflation. only 5% said they were concerned about the war with russia. given that, how challenging is this for you to put ukraine as a priority, knowing what voters care about in the short term? >> i think it is a direct challenge. i have been campaigning since the mid 80s, and campaigning for myself since 1990. knocking on doors, talking to voters. and i can tell you, all the doors alive knocked on, all people live sports broke into. foreign policy is never the first thing. there are more concerned about education, health care. things that impact them in the moment. and if you're running for reelection to congress, or for just congress in general in 2022, you better be talking about those issues. the foreign policy issues to impact us. the question is, do they turn against those issues? are they saying that we do not support the effort to protect ukraine? or are they saying we are more focused on other issues? right now i think that is the case. i don't think there's a lot of people saying we should abandon ukraine and not help them, we have to be able to do both. you have to be a politician, and a leader. if you have to be able to provide further domestically aids for your people, and also keep the peace globally. it's a tough challenge but i think that the american people won't abandon ukraine at this point. >> and another thing, that scores of americans agree on, but does not end up being a top issue for voters. is gun safety. when you think about what happened last week in a while there. of the week before in buffalo. do you believe that there is anything going to happen? is there any hope that this time is different? >> i think we can actually change this. but we have to change and refocus our approach. and one of the things, as you mentioned, in terms of issues that people focus on. when it comes the, gunther pro gun forces have typically had greater intensity. they don't have the numbers, but that 30% of the american electorate that is pro gun, tends to vote on it and organize around it. which means that we have to organize on the other side. and i said this before, i want to give a shout out to my former colleague gaby giffords. the organization that she has, is focus on passing gun safety legislation. they don't just announced a piece of legislation, and go to congress saying that you have to vote for this. they organize across the country. they get people to support the ideas behind gun safety. so the candidates can run on concept issues, and when. not just in districts like mine. that are 70% democratic, i've got a trunk of seattle. very much in favor of gun control measures. but across the country, you have to educate and build the support. and the biggest thing eminent keep harping on, we have to counter this narrative. you heard it from ted cruz yesterday. the more guys we have, the safer we are. that is categorically untrue. the facts, statistics show that we have to go out there and make that case to the american people. show them, the more guns you have, the more tragedies happen. so let's ban assault weapons, let's put in place meaningful background checks. let's increase red flag laws, so people who are dangerous to the communities cannot possess guns. and let's understand the risks that the gun spring. they're errors wrong, 75% of the country agrees with them. so we have to make the case. they are organized, they have the following. it is not just money. it is a political, or policy argument that they make relentlessly. we have to counter that. and organizations are the one that gaby formed are focused on doing that. we have to fight this, continually make the argument. because we all know how important it is. i've been watching your reporting, it is just devastating. we have to do more to stop it. >> public health, and public safety should not be issues that are political. they should just be important for all americans. congressman, thank you for joining us today. i really appreciate it. congressman adam smith, chairman of the armed services committee. coming up next! well bill be political well on capitol hill? 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and if so will it be enough to get something done? let's discuss. i'd like to bring in former florida republican congressman, and democratic strategist adrienne. i want to start with that clip i just paid of chris murphy. a republican saying that he would support an assault weapons ban if it came to the floor. he has never said this before, he represents a very pro gun district. and he's gotten approval from the and are a. do you think this is a big shift? or is this just talk? >> staff, this is real this time. i'm very hopeful because, not only do you hear these house members starting to make the statements. but the senate is really where the action is at. if there is going to be a meaningful compromise, it is going to come out of the senate. and for me, the big sign last week was that mitch mcconnell, publicly encouraged john mccormack, who has worked on this issue in the past. to work with democrats to find a solution. i think we're going to see something on raising their age limit for gun purchases, root universal background checks, red flag laws. there really seems to be a package coming together now. and again, republicans don't move in congress without mitch mcconnell. i know all the attention is usually on donald trump, but it is mitch mcconnell that determines what republicans do in the congress. >> okay but hold on, talk is cheap. mitch mcconnell did not give any specifics whatsoever, but by mitch mcconnell saying hold on, i'm going to encourage john cornyn to talk, and chris murphy saying i'm optimistic, maybe something could happen here. adrian, by that happening. well you know what that did to chuck schumer? he did not make something to a vote. more time will pass. congress is in recess, on break, because it's memorial day. and they can play that the news cycle will move on and that will stop depending action. are they just paying a game that they always have? >> look, i think that carlos is right. and i am very optimistic, more than i have ever have been. that something could happen. but you are exactly right. the longer we go from uvalde driving the headlines, the less the chance this is going to happen. we have to strike while the iron is hot, it is right red hot right now. so i believe we can change it. -- that means they have to have a compromise before that week to explain. so they can vote on it in that week. so we have to make sure this happens now. but here is the bottom line, i will say this. i've never seen john come to the table in this way. you just played several clips of republicans who have come to the table. ken singer is not gonna be in congress after the cycle, so that's an unfortunate situation. but i think it is hopefully changing the game a little bit. and staff, it also helps that 90% of the american people, including republicans support background checks and red flag locks. these are popular things, popular initiatives that are supported. so the support is there from the public, we are just looking there from the lawmakers to act. >> carlos, why on earth would you believe mitch mcconnell's top? come on! >> well staff, mitch mcconnell cares about one thing above all. winning elections. and i think he perceives a real threat here for republicans. we have the abortion issue out there, but i think that most republicans think that issue is contained to the base voters of each of the two parties. when it comes to this gun issue, you hear a lot of republicans, especially those swing voters in the suburbs. that took republicans out of control in 2018, seem to be swinging back to republicans in poll after poll. those voters do care about this issue. this is a broader issue, an issue that republicans that republicans aren't going to be able to contain likely contain the abortion issue. so i think they can see the threat here. they know that they are not instep with the american people on this issue, and they want to protect the leads that they are seeing in so many polls ahead of the 2022 midterm elections. >> i want to dig into how all of this impacts the midterms. if you two would stick around, carlos, adrian, we're gonna cover this on the other side of the break. stay with us! with us choosing t-mobile is like paying for this... but getting that! and with our new price lock guarantee, you won't need to worry about price hikes. because unlike at&t, we won't raise the price of your rate plan. another way customers get more at t-mobile. only at vanguard you're more than just an investor you're an owner. that means that your priorities are ours too. our interactive tools and advice can help you build a future for the ones you love. that's the value of ownership. trelegy for copd. ♪ birds flyin' high ♪ ♪ you know how i feel ♪ (coughing) ♪ breeze driftin' on by ♪ ♪ you know how i feel ♪ copd may have gotten you here, but you decide what's next. start a new day with trelegy. ♪ ...feelin' good ♪ no once-daily copd medicine has the power to treat copd in as many ways as trelegy. with three medicines in one inhaler, trelegy helps people breathe easier and improves lung function. it also helps prevent future flare-ups. trelegy won't replace a rescue inhaler for sudden breathing problems. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure before taking it. do not take trelegy more than prescribed. trelegy may increase your risk of thrush, pneumonia, and osteoporosis. call your doctor if worsened breathing, chest pain, mouth or tongue swelling, problems urinating, vision changes, or eye pain occur. take a stand and start a new day with trelegy. ask your doctor about once-daily trelegy. and save at trelegy.com. ♪ it's the most wonderful time of the year ♪ ask your doctor about once-daily trelegy. it's spring! claritin provides non-drowsy symptom relief from over 200 indoor and outdoor allergens, day after day. feel the clarity— and make today the most wonderful time of the year. live claritin clear. 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winfield. one of the ten people killed in a mass shooting of a grocery store on may 15th. yesterday, the president and first lady were down in uvalde, texas where they met for hours with families of the 19 young children and two teachers who were killed in last week's school shooting. which of course came just ten days after buffalo. as biden left the church service in uvalde, he was met by a crowd of people chanting, do something. he responded by telling the crowd, we will. the president sounded a very similar note in the commence speech this weekend at university of delaware, telling graduates that the country can and must do something. >> let's be clear, evil came to the elementary school classroom in texas, to that grocery store in new york and far too many places where innocents have died. in the face of such forces, we have to stand stronger. we must stand stronger. we cannot outlaw tragedy, i know. but we can make america safer. >> but let's be honest, optimism is in short supply on whether congress will do anything at all. even as protests rage throughout the weekend, outside of the nra conference that took place in houston, inside of the event, donald trump himself another republican political leaders were refusing any and all calls for gun reform. much of the attention right now remains on the law enforcement response to the shooting at robb elementary in texas. the justice department announced it will conduct a review of the response after it became abundantly clear that officers waited for over an hour before they stormed the classroom where the gunman was. during that excruciating wait, children inside of the room called 9-1-1 repeatedly, pleading for help. as families wait for clarity on what exactly happened, and more importantly, what went wrong inside of the school, the nation is waiting to see if lawmakers will manage any legislative response to the shooting. tomorrow, funerals will begin in that small texas town for the many victims. a funeral service will be held tomorrow for a ten year old my tehran-geles, who is an honor student, recognized for her achievements at a school ceremony that very, day that morning before the shooting. on wednesday, there will be a joint funeral for irma garcia, one of the two teachers killed in the massacre and for her husband joe. it's hard to even think about it. he collapsed and died just two days later. many people, he said, he died from the grief. they leave for children behind. nbc sam brock's reporting for us in uvalde. he's reporting for us now. sent, thank you for being there. i want to start by asking, what has this been like for you? you've been in this town for days now. >> it feels like we are seeing this pain play out over and over again. it's the theoretical, stephanie. people talk about how it's so horrible that this happens in denver, upstate new york, new york, florida, you pick your location. it always seems like it's the other and not happening to us. but you talk to the family members here and they say, a reality, the perception of what is possible is shattered. and it certainly feels like that for someone who is on the ground and talking for them as well. because the pain itself is indescribable. you could see it on their faces. i am watching families walking up to this plaza behind me. see, there's a fountain with so many flowers and gifts for those who are greeting. it's, that many fee tie, because people care that much about trying to provide some level of consolation. or some level of support to those experiencing pain. by the same token, they are confused. everyone here is confused. as for the time limit offense that there is not a school resource officer on campus when it all broke out. why a school board was left open. the budget here in uvalde had been doubled, stephanie, previous years. trying to really show up security issues. they had active training drills two months prior before this all started. so, as you talk to the families, one of, them i spoke to grandmother to the ten year old child and you can immediately understand envision her future someone who love song and dance. she had a beautiful voice. she loved softball with her grandfather, and he bought a glove. this is a kid with all the potential in the world. and her life has been cut short. the grandfather wrote a letter to president biden, who was in town yesterday, give it to elliana's mom, his daughter, to give to president biden. here is what the letter says. >> well, i was, you know like, i hear her say, we are -- unruly, we are not anymore. >> he has power to change it. and he can do it. he can. and it needs to change. because how many more lives are going to be taken? other families are going to lose their children or their nieces, their cousins -- >> two weeks ago, we were playing here, playing here! i bought her new glove. she never had the chance of putting it on and again. >> stephanie, no one here doubts the fact that it was an 18 year old who decided out of his own volition to go out and buy two ar-15 style rifles, and to commit this act. but, they also want some form of an explanation from law enforcement here, from the local police department and school district police department from pete arredondo, who is the chief. who was just elected city council to explain what is thought process and rational was like. and decided to keep federal agents from going into the school as they sat there for 30 minutes. there was a city council meeting that was scheduled for tomorrow, 6:00. that is been canceled. so, again, i believe for day three or four now, not a word, not just from the state, but not from the city for the last week, stephanie in the aftermath of this last tragedy. stuff? >> is there any reason why they would council that council meeting? i cannot imagine a week that is more important where people need answers. >> that is the problem. it is that we have seen what's up in when they held press conferences. it just bonds more questions. the criticism heightens for public officials. specifically when it comes down to how this became a barricade situation versus active shooter. because, as you talk to experts and law enforcements, stephanie, they'll explain that it lasts less than five minutes. because ever since columbine, the guidance has changed for what law enforcement officers are supposed to do when there is a threat of someone being killed. so, they are going to have to answer those questions. and with each day that goes by, i cannot tell you what's in their head in terms of accountability and explaining what transpires. another day goes by, another day where they're not standing in front of a microphone to try to tell all of the people live in this community how this could've transpired the way did it did. and again, i will state, a shooter decided to pick up a weapon and go and devastate families for the rest of their lives. but, there also has to be some sort of explanation, some sort of, it, lisa review. there was a federal review that's moving forward, now. it's pretty rare. department justice, this critical review has only happened in the last several years, a couple of times, orlando is one of the most recent examples. they are looking right now at death practices. there is evidence that it was not followed. we want to know, people who live in this community, just want to know. why not? >> well, the most important person in the federal government was in uvalde yesterday, the president. how is the community reacting? >> i think that they were very glad to see him here. he spent hours meeting with families. there is images of president biden wiping tears away to his face when you talk to the families themselves about what they are expecting. they want to do something. and as we, know the president can issue executive orders. but you're not gonna issue an executive order to take assault rifles off of the street. that has to be an act of congress. there's only so much the president can do. i will say that we would like to hear more from him. but, actually trying to lean on federal politicians to an act, as you, said some form of a bipartisan package of gun reform, if that's even possible. we've had this conversation several times in recent years after the worst chapter of murder in american history some schools. whether it's parkland or newtown. and we all know the end result. which is nothing got done. people here say, this, time it has to be different. there's no other option. because it will happen again in another city of action does not take. >> sam brock, thank you so much for being there, for reporting on this really important story. i appreciated. i want to bring it to our conversation, texas state senator, his district includes uvalde. senator, here we are again. you and i talking for the third time in the last five days. tell us what the last few days have been like for you. day one was just simply shock throughout the community. here we are as the days are passing. what are people telling you they want and need the most? >> so, it is day seven now, stephanie. at the end of the day, this community needs therapy. they need love. they need attention. we need resources. i have asked the governor to send me $2 million to fund a community health clinic for behavioral health so that we can pay therapist that are going to live in uvalde, work in uvalde, world mental health is a very big challenge. constituents are talking about raising the school. i had that conversation with the president, as well. he is committed to me. his death is committed to me. we will work on a federal grant to raise the school. it is said that one exist, there is up to 45 million dollar grant to raise schools that have undergone this type of calamity. disturbing to say the least. but, we are here to make sure that they know that we are not leaving. we are going to make sure that we get all the resources to them as soon as possible. >> mental health support should be helpful going forward. but, people are still stuck, rightfully so on the past. do you have more answers for us on what went wrong with law enforcement? the timing! it's amazing to me, the conference that was supposed to be held tomorrow, the city council meeting, it's already been canceled. >> so, i welcome further investigation by dps. i certainly welcome the federal investigation. i had a very long and heated conversation with mcfaul on saturday morning. we were both in tears. i, particularly find it disappointing that we are pointing the finger at one cop. i don't know this man. but, the fact is that every cop that was there violated the active shooter protocols. we want -- there is this narrative that the cop with the six officers below him was calling the shots. at what point does the next agency takeover? and the next agency with more firepower, ammunition and people take over? even the federal government, when they arrived, they didn't go charging it. it took them a few minutes. and so, there was a failure at every level here. that is why this federal investigation needs to happen. that is why these families want to know. i'm gonna tell you an incredibly sad story. one of the families that i have spoken to, most of these kids are unfortunately riddled and really devastatingly hurt. this one child had only one bullet wound through the kidney area. she likely blood out according to the first responders. and we got in the 20, 30 minutes before this child might have been alive. we have to get answers so that this never happens again. so that we can find the best practices so that no family has to go through the agony that these families went through as they waited outside for over an hour to let law enforcement figure out when, if they were going to going. >> then, let's make sure you and i are not advancing any false narratives out there. but, your estimation, everything that you have learned over the last seven days, you are there on the ground. what do you think happened? >> i know that at 12:03, as you, know there were 19 officers in the hallway that apparently were repelled by some form of gunfire and decided not to go in. we were told, wrongly, there was negotiations. and the fact is that person never uttered a word to law enforcement. so, that was not true. would i have asked mcgraw to give me is not just the ballistics report that he wants to give me about friendly fire, i don't care about that so much. i want to know how many officers were in that building, what time they were in that building and when and where they were situated. i saw no officers, as yet, on the outside windows. they haven't told us anything about. that ever since friday's report, we have not heard anything. three days, four days have gone by since friday. and we have gotten -- i got another report from dps us to where the officers were and where they were working in the other agencies. the agencies had greater manpower, greater firepower, greater ammunition, more people and we need to ascertain these important facts. these families deserve it. >> 19 officers were in the building at 12:03. they left. and what do we know the outcome was? 19 children and two teachers were killed. i know that your republican governor, greg abbott was given a news conference on friday, and you personally interrupted him. you asked him to call a special session of the legislature to do something about guns. have you gotten any response? >> i've gotten no response from greg abbott, he's holed up in his office and some people think maybe i should have done. that maybe it wasn't the right time. let's be really clear, we've. had six or seven in texas. after each and every one of them we do the thoughts and prayers thing. and yet, nothing, nothing, nothing gets done. he is very proud of the school hardening of 2019. we can see what happened there. we cannot allow greg abbott or any republican an office that is bought and paid for by the nra to escape this moment. i am asking this governor to bring us back. i want to tell you another number, today is day 77. we are 77 days from the first school start in texas. i am not -- this isn't a challenge. i'm not playing a game here. we need to get back into the capital. we need for things done. we need wait periods. we need red flag laws. we need to have magazine capacities. and more importantly, we need to raise this age limit. how an 18 year old was able to access these kinds of weapons of mass destruction is beyond me. it is harder to get baby formula in texas than it is to buy an ar-15. sir, something has happened after all the shootings. over the last couple of years, gun laws has become more relaxed in the state of texas. do you think this horrific event is not only going to change the way they see things, but it is it going to change the lines of texan voters? >> i've already heard from third parties, that some of my colleagues in the republican controlled senate, are suggesting that we need to make the schools more secure. didn't we already do that? then we do that in 2019? apparently we need more mental illness. let's fund that, because that's a component. but at the end of the day, this is an access to militarized weaponry that it should not be. i have republican constituents calling me and saying let's raise the age limit. i have no problem with a waiting limit, with red flags. the only constituents that greg is listening to is the nra. he is a coward! let's be real clear! this man, has made it easier and easier for people to access this kind of weaponry. last session during the open carry bill that they passed, where the last speaker spoke. in the last ten seconds i said, because of this bill, more kids will die! i never thought that that hyperbole was going to be realized in my own community. i think i'm living in a horror film. >> senator, i am sorry to hear you say that. and i'm sorry for what you're going through right now. thank you for joining us right now, roland. i appreciate it. we're gonna have much more on this throughout the hour. the frustration felt by democrats, and some republicans. and more importantly, a whole lot of americans, about the lack of action after recent mass shootings. the big question? 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>> we're not gonna send ukraine rocket systems that could strike into russia. >> so if that is off the table, the big question is what is? what other measures are still being considered in terms of helping ukraine win the war? let's discuss. i am joined now by washington state democratic congressman, adam smith, he is the chairman of the armed services committee. thank you for joining us on this very important day. i want to start with the presidents most recent remarks, saying, that we will melt not sent ukraine weapons that will reach russian? >> i think it was an offhand remark. the question can be interpreted in two ways. we simply do not support ukraine targeting russia, but when you're talking about artillery shells and missiles, ukraine is right on the border with russia. anything that we send them could target russia. once that larger range could target it in a better way. but the point of the missiles as not to attack russia, it's that the russia's are attacking. as you know, the fighting is focus in the east, to some degree in the south. they've launched attacks as far as away as lviv. certainly in kyiv and elsewhere. so if ukrainians have longer range missiles they can defend against those attacks. but we'll have to see about what the policy is. i don't know what the president marked answer to that question, it's a more marked question then they implied. >> is there any more that the u.s. could be doing that they are not? that you think we should be? >> well, to answer that question, you have to understand that the basic principle that president biden laid out from the start. that's doing everything possible to help ukraine. but the one thing that we will not do is start a war with russia. obviously, we could be sending troops to the ukraine. we could send the u.s. forces and equipment. but we're not gonna do that. i think within the parameters, we're not going to directly fight russia. i believe right now, we are doing everything that we can. as we're scrambling to find the systems that can help ukraine, u.s. symptoms are are amongst our many allies. some which are crucial. the president and his team, the defense secretary of state, have built a coalition that is also providing a large amount of equipment, humanitarian assistance. so, i think the president has done an excellent job to date of organizing that effort in helping ukraine in this fight. >> obviously, our federal government is super focused on this. but, there you are in washington state. you're not in d.c. right now, you're dealing with voters, constituents every day. do you believe that the american people are still invested in this war? >> right now, i think they are. but i think it is a very legitimate question. for how long? can putin still out weight us and the destruction down on ukraine until fissures show up in the coalition. and it's not just what's going on in the u.s., as you mentioned, hungary is standing in the way of an oil embargo. turkey is raising questions about finland and sweden coming into nato. it is gonna take a lot of work to hold this coalition together. but the good news is that the ukrainians are putting up an incredible fight, and they are actually pushing russia back. we saw there in kyiv, we see that in kharkiv, as it's supported yesterday, there is a new and pensive launched in kherson in the south. where the russians have held. i think the coach can hold together. but it is not easy. there are -- across the world. we just have to remind people what this active aggression works. the messages sent that in china you still can't take territory by brute force. and it goes all across the world, and it impacts all of us. it's not just ukraine being impacted by this, as much as they need and deserve our help. >> put the nato coalition aside, and let's talk about the u.s., for example. because midterms are around the corner. and i want to share some information we got. when asked what people think the most important problem facing the our country is, 20% said the government and poor leadership. 17% mention the high cost of living, inflation. only 5% said they were concerned about the war with russia. given that, how challenging is this for you to put ukraine as a priority, knowing what voters care about in the short term? >> i think it is a direct challenge. i have been campaigning since the mid 80s, and campaigning for myself since 1990. knocking on doors, talking to voters. and i can tell you, all the doors alive knocked on, all people live sports broke into. foreign policy is never the first thing. there are more concerned about education, health care. things that impact them in the moment. and if you're running for reelection to congress, or for just congress in general in 2022, you better be talking about those issues. the foreign policy issues to impact us. the question is, do they turn against those issues? are they saying that we do not support the effort to protect ukraine? or are they saying we are more focused on other issues? right now i think that is the case. i don't think there's a lot of people saying we should abandon ukraine and not help them, we have to be able to do both. you have to be a politician, and a leader. if you have to be able to provide further domestically aids for your people, and also keep the peace globally. it's a tough challenge but i think that the american people won't abandon ukraine at this point. >> and another thing, that scores of americans agree on, but does not end up being a top issue for voters. is gun safety. when you think about what happened last week in a while there. of the week before in buffalo. do you believe that there is anything going to happen? is there any hope that this time is different? >> i think we can actually change this. but we have to change and refocus our approach. and one of the things, as you mentioned, in terms of issues that people focus on. when it comes the, gunther pro gun forces have typically had greater intensity. they don't have the numbers, but that 30% of the american electorate that is pro gun, tends to vote on it and organize around it. which means that we have to organize on the other side. and i said this before, i want to give a shout out to my former colleague gaby giffords. the organization that she has, is focus on passing gun safety legislation. they don't just announced a piece of legislation, and go to congress saying that you have to vote for this. they organize across the country. they get people to support the ideas behind gun safety. so the candidates can run on concept issues, and when. not just in districts like mine. that are 70% democratic, i've got a trunk of seattle. very much in favor of gun control measures. but across the country, you have to educate and build the support. and the biggest thing eminent keep harping on, we have to counter this narrative. you heard it from ted cruz yesterday. the more guys we have, the safer we are. that is categorically untrue. the facts, statistics show that we have to go out there and make that case to the american people. show them, the more guns you have, the more tragedies happen. so let's ban assault weapons, let's put in place meaningful background checks. let's increase red flag laws, so people who are dangerous to the communities cannot possess guns. and let's understand the risks that the gun spring. they're errors wrong, 75% of the country agrees with them. so we have to make the case. they are organized, they have the following. it is not just money. it is a political, or policy argument that they make relentlessly. we have to counter that. and organizations are the one that gaby formed are focused on doing that. we have to fight this, continually make the argument. because we all know how important it is. i've been watching your reporting, it is just devastating. we have to do more to stop it. >> public health, and public safety should not be issues that are political. they should just be important for all americans. congressman, thank you for joining us today. i really appreciate it. congressman adam smith, chairman of the armed services committee. coming up next! well bill be political well on capitol hill? 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and if so will it be enough to get something done? let's discuss. i'd like to bring in former florida republican congressman, and democratic strategist adrienne. i want to start with that clip i just paid of chris murphy. a republican saying that he would support an assault weapons ban if it came to the floor. he has never said this before, he represents a very pro gun district. and he's gotten approval from the and are a. do you think this is a big shift? or is this just talk? >> staff, this is real this time. i'm very hopeful because, not only do you hear these house members starting to make the statements. but the senate is really where the action is at. if there is going to be a meaningful compromise, it is going to come out of the senate. and for me, the big sign last week was that mitch mcconnell, publicly encouraged john mccormack, who has worked on this issue in the past. to work with democrats to find a solution. i think we're going to see something on raising their age limit for gun purchases, root universal background checks, red flag laws. there really seems to be a package coming together now. and again, republicans don't move in congress without mitch mcconnell. i know all the attention is usually on donald trump, but it is mitch mcconnell that determines what republicans do in the congress. >> okay but hold on, talk is cheap. mitch mcconnell did not give any specifics whatsoever, but by mitch mcconnell saying hold on, i'm going to encourage john cornyn to talk, and chris murphy saying i'm optimistic, maybe something could happen here. adrian, by that happening. well you know what that did to chuck schumer? he did not make something to a vote. more time will pass. congress is in recess, on break, because it's memorial day. and they can play that the news cycle will move on and that will stop depending action. are they just paying a game that they always have? >> look, i think that carlos is right. and i am very optimistic, more than i have ever have been. that something could happen. but you are exactly right. the longer we go from uvalde driving the headlines, the less the chance this is going to happen. we have to strike while the iron is hot, it is right red hot right now. so i believe we can change it. -- that means they have to have a compromise before that week to explain. so they can vote on it in that week. so we have to make sure this happens now. but here is the bottom line, i will say this. i've never seen john come to the table in this way. you just played several clips of republicans who have come to the table. ken singer is not gonna be in congress after the cycle, so that's an unfortunate situation. but i think it is hopefully changing the game a little bit. and staff, it also helps that 90% of the american people, including republicans support background checks and red flag locks. these are popular things, popular initiatives that are supported. so the support is there from the public, we are just looking there from the lawmakers to act. >> carlos, why on earth would you believe mitch mcconnell's top? come on! >> well staff, mitch mcconnell cares about one thing above all. winning elections. and i think he perceives a real threat here for republicans. we have the abortion issue out there, but i think that most republicans think that issue is contained to the base voters of each of the two parties. when it comes to this gun issue, you hear a lot of republicans, especially those swing voters in the suburbs. that took republicans out of control in 2018, seem to be swinging back to republicans in poll after poll. those voters do care about this issue. this is a broader issue, an issue that republicans that republicans aren't going to be able to contain likely contain the abortion issue. so i think they can see the threat here. they know that they are not instep with the american people on this issue, and they want to protect the leads that they are seeing in so many polls ahead of the 2022 midterm elections. >> i want to dig into how all of this impacts the midterms. if you two would stick around, carlos, adrian, we're gonna cover this on the other side of the break. stay with us! with us choosing t-mobile is like paying for this... but getting that! and with our new price lock guarantee, you won't need to worry about price hikes. because unlike at&t, we won't raise the price of your rate plan. another way customers get more at t-mobile. only at vanguard you're more than just an investor you're an owner. that means that your priorities are ours too. our interactive tools and advice can help you build a future for the ones you love. that's the value of ownership. trelegy for copd. ♪ birds flyin' high ♪ ♪ you know how i feel ♪ (coughing) ♪ breeze driftin' on by ♪ ♪ you know how i feel ♪ copd may have gotten you here, but you decide what's next. start a new day with trelegy. ♪ ...feelin' good ♪ no once-daily copd medicine has the power to treat copd in as many ways as trelegy. with three medicines in one inhaler, trelegy helps people breathe easier and improves lung function. it also helps prevent future flare-ups. trelegy won't replace a rescue inhaler for sudden breathing problems. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure before taking it. do not take trelegy more than prescribed. trelegy may increase your risk of thrush, pneumonia, and osteoporosis. call your doctor if worsened breathing, chest pain, mouth or tongue swelling, problems urinating, vision changes, or eye pain occur. take a stand and start a new day with trelegy. ask your doctor about once-daily trelegy. and save at trelegy.com. ♪ it's the most wonderful time of the year ♪ ask your doctor about once-daily trelegy. it's spring! claritin provides non-drowsy symptom relief from over 200 indoor and outdoor allergens, day after day. feel the clarity— and make today the most wonderful time of the year. live claritin clear. 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