how you doin', john? good to see you. - caffeination for the nation. - thank you. - robert has directed huge hits such as "desperado," "from dusk till dawn," and "spy kids." and since coming on the scene, he's helped reenvision what working in the film industry can be. so i wanna understand how you started, man, because you're really, truly, one of the pioneers who brought independent films to everyone, and allowed everyone to believe that they could possibly make an independent film. you were one of those guys. - it's just something i always loved to do. i love being creative. i wasn't very good in school. i'd be sitting in the back of the class making flip cartoon movies in the spanish-english dictionaries. [john chuckles] and people would laugh. i'd go, "god, i can entertain them with my drawings "and my art and my little movies, but what job could i ever get?" no one had ever come out of texas as a filmmaker, really, so it wasn't like that was a dream that seemed possible. i didn't know anybody in la, but i kept making these things as a hobby. and i love drawing, i love photography, i love music. movies kinda let me put all my hobbies under one umbrella.