about mutual security concerns and it's hard to have diplomacy at the barrel of a gun, and now the situation we are in now, russia continues to escalate the attacks on ukraine, and we in the west and throughout the world will continue to hold him accountable and impose sanctions that deny their ability to project power to reinforce their defense industry in the short term and long term. >> matt, we have a cabinet meeting with president biden and members of his cabinet starting in a few seconds, and i don't want to interrupt you for that and it's about a minute long and we will come back out for this interview, so don't go anywhere. it's starting right now. let's go to that. >> we continue to impose very severe -- at least it's in the middle and it will drop in the middle.

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