legal correspondent, also someone who knows everything supreme court. so dahlia -- don't make that face. you do. i know you. >> i'm just going to cop to that right now. >> very funny comment from ken. i like that. all right. let's talk about these -- who is on the short list. yet we talked about ketanji brown-jackson. who else is on the list? >> i think she stays at the top for a lot of people because it is an easy lift because, as you just heard, three republicans voted under a year ago to confirm her. and so it's tough to make the case that she wouldn't get bipartisan support. and i think right under her are california supreme court justice leondra kruger who is a strong