make is really important, and it doesn't happen if you don't have that representation of women and of women of color. >> and i think what she said there is so important, geoff, because we spoke with these three women who happen to be women of color. and the thing that they continue to hearken back to, especially congresswoman barbara lee who had her abortion before that landmark "roe" ruling, she pointed to the fact that she survived, she was lucky enough, in her words, to have a family friend who was a good doctor in mexico, even though it was a back alley clinic, it was a good doctor, she said. she pointed to the fact that she survived but how dangerous it was especially for black and brown women. that's the warning you hear still from reproductive advocates, if you go back to a time before "roe," those are the women who would be in the crosshairs here. >> where does this policy push head next? the supreme court is expected to hear the mississippi case that bans abortion after 15 weeks.