was clear to make it to the airport but they never made it out of afghanistan and still there, and we are not releasing the names for the security, but it is sundz scoring that there was a level of cooperation by the taliban. it is also important to point out, geoff, the defense officials that we are speaking with are not optimistic and skeptical about the idea that the u.s. would continue to work on the taliban on some military-to-military level. >> got it. aneesh, i want to speak with you, because yesterday in an interview with ron klain, taking the same position as president biden, and klain strongly defended the evacuation and squarely pointed the finger at two other presidents. take a listen to this. >> in july the taliban had not yet conquered a single provincial capital in the country, and as general milley said, i don't think that there