at the entrance to james's isolated mountain property. >> we just got done shooting. and i just hear this car roll up. i was like, "wow, that sounds like rachel." and i see these two men walking up the driveway. and i was like, "oh, my god. what are they doing here?" and i ran out. i'm like, "dad, todd's here. and so is don." he goes, "all right. let's get this over with." and i grabbed the nine -- or i didn't grab the nine, i grabbed the m4. >> reporter: katelynn is talking about the guns she had at the ready, a 9 millimeter pistol and an m-4 rifle. and james? he had a pistol holstered in the small of his back as he walked out to greet todd and don. >> i had a 9-millimeter on me, and i know how to use it extremely well. >> reporter: here is james's memory of a confrontation so tense it sounds almost surreal. as the two men approached the house, he said, they hid behind todd and rachel's children.