going to do that again in 2020. this is not going to go away. if senator mcconnell thinks that he can slow-walk this issue and that our momentum will dissipate, he is wrong. there will be hell to pay at the ballot box, not just in 2020, but in 2019. because mothers in this country are mad. and when they are mad, we see things change, and i truly believe that that will happen in the upcoming elections. >> you know, matt, a lot of the projects -- a lot of the progress that has been made has been because of groups like shannon's. it's been on the state level. is progress even possible in a red state like texas where the gun culture is so strong? >> i think it is. and you're exactly right. we've seen unbelievable progress because of moms demand and because of every town and a whole bunch of other groups that have come along in the last 15 or so years that have not only change the politics of guns but have levelled the playing field in two important ways. one is they've brought a lot of money and resources to fight the