wisconsin there. this is a place where democrats felt like they had a good shot, right, to flip a gop seat when it comes to senator ron johnson, who is really stepping into a lot of controversy with the comments on election denialism on 020 et cetera, and looking at the poll now, it is closer than what democrats would want to see and probably than what republicans want to see, too. >> that's right. we saw in the new poll that things are truly neck and neck. this is well within the margin of error. and both campaigns acknowledge that. and that's why they're focused on turnout right now. and i had a one-on-one interview with senator ron johnson, as he was outside on the campaign trail, in marshfield, wisconsin, he said he is feeling cautiously optimistic about this race, and he defended what we've been noting as stepped-up attacks, or stepped-up attacks against his opponent, lieutenant governor mandela barnes. we heard him tell supporters even today that mandela barnes has disdain for the united states and for wisconsinites so i asked him to explain those attacks we've been hearing on