insisting he sort of wants to engage with the committee or has been saying that. of course, he was only engaging in what appears to be now a stall tactic looking like he was cooperating, but his lawyer making clear, he wasn't going to share anything that touched on the president's conversations or rather meadow's conversations with the president. then he backed off the deposition. the third sirius, of course, is meadows writing a book in which he's revealing public forgive me very unpublic medical private records of the president discussing conversations he had with the president all of which you think would be a little more concerning to reveal. but they're valuable in the book as news nuggets. >> it's a great analogy, laying it out is illustrative of where we are at the moment. you heard lee anne looking ahead at this potential contempt for mark meadows.