there at the syrian town, and if i just step out of the way, we will give you a closer look, we have been here for around an hour, and we have been watching consistent turkish shelling, shells landing with smoke billowing up, and in another direction, we have been watching a turkish tank push out from cover, fire and then pull back again. and across the plain, you can hear the sound of machine gunfire, regularly, now this town was said to have been taken by turkish forces, some days ago. and any car kara says it has he town. that is clearly not the case. and we have seen what might have been mortar fire perhaps by mostly kurdish forces in response to the turkish offensive. and of course, all of this taking place, in syria. just after a phone call between president trump and president trump erdogan, just after those