day they know this testimony is coming out in the trial and they might as well inoculate themselves and get ready right now. >> and i want to bring the rev in on this. david pecker is the witness we don't talk about as much because he hasn't said as much in the public arena. you don't have a relationship with david pecker if you're not hiding something. >> you must look at david pecker because i think that he is a key to if you engaged in this, we're going to pay somebody to hide this story. it already shows the kinds of steps you would take to try and win, and even if it is in -- if not illegal, certainly unethical ways. you're going to actually engage in a deal as donald trump has done, with pecker to say somebody comes to something bad, buy the story and hide it. well, there's not much of a leap to go from there to saying i want to change and falsify some

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