call into question the credibility of the witnesses. we should use prior trial determinations by juries and judges to be able to, therefore, question the defendant donald trump. >> yeah. and neil is with us. and neil, as i was asking the question, the control room informed me that we just learned that monday morning judge marchand will have the ruling on all of what vaughn and sue are talking about. but this dynamic -- and again, we often cover it in the political context about credibility, particularly of michael cohen, is usually in reaction to a smear from donald trump. in this case in front of a jury, michael cohen is a fact witness, but there are a bunch of other things that we know that alvin bragg did to corroborate those facts. and it seems reasonable when credibility attacks our known tomb -- tool, legal one of