a partner in the think tank when wendy was between the tenure at the state department and now coming back durt trump years and worked together closely and suzie george her long-time aide and now chief of staff for tony blinken at the state department so the women followed in her footsteps in their careers just incredibly enhanced by knowing her and following the example. i just know that has a woman covers the first woman secretary of state she was extraordinary. small story if i may. >> sure. >> she told me that one of the goals -- i stopped by and got a quick interview part of which was in that tribute we wrote about her and she could not do