audiences and speak to the people. >> i'm guessing that you acknowledge the showmanship doesn't show up something that isn't there and what's spl there is a man that refuses to leave kyiv, like magnetically drawn to the troops. giving them medals. >> that's right. there's no faking that courage and bravery. if people had any doubts. ukrainians did have doubts about his abilities as a leader before this invasion started a few weeks ago. the approval ratings were not good and dropped throughout the time in office but i think when he made that decision to stay and just taking enormous risks putting out the videos in rooms where we meet for interviews and