do, undermine our democracy. and of course how they do use folks like michael flynn and mr. wall draughn and others, people that have held positions of public trust in our military to try to advance those plans. >> i think they use those people because those are people who traditionally in normal times have more respectability, they conote trust. but this timing their target was the will of every american who hadn't voted for donald trump. i wonder how you feel personally. 12% of capitol riot cases, have former military experience. should we be surprised? are you surprised that so many military and exmilitary were involved in that effort to overthrow our own country, our own democracy? >> i am surprised, nicolle. i feel awful about it, to be honest with you. as you might recall i was one of

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