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used to be. he is not dominating the news cycle the way he used to be. he can't move markets and create as much chaos and debate as he used to in the national political conversation because he doesn't have the platforms he used to. so to have terry mcauliffe and his campaign and democrats elevating him by talking about hmm so much, i think that was really discordant with what was on the minds of a lot of voters in virginia who are like, why are they spending so much time talking about this guy who is not on the ballot? >> it is a really interesting probably hard truth. i mean, trump is over in terms of republican politics. youngkin made him really a non-factor for all the reasons tim has described and that we cover here, you know, his assault on our democracy and the investigation into that assault is something that warrants attention and coverage, but i hear what you are saying, jeremy. and i wonder, michael steele, if i could ask you to take the

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