indictment is of the people around the ex-president? >> well, i'm not sure. i sort of see this in the larger context as sort of the ultimate culmination of the trump presidency. you know, i go back to the early days where trump is trying to convince comey to drop the flynn investigation. comey getting fired and everything that comes out after that and the efforts to sort of contain trump as he's trying to go after mueller. in those first two years, trump gets in a lot of trouble for a range of things, but ultimately in the second two years is unshackled and is truly unbound. and i think that's what we see in this last few months of the presidency. it's just the ultimate unboundness of donald trump. and the ultimate fear of those who still remained. the don mcgahn, john kellys of the world, the range of other people who were sort of buffers