made by the previous administration. it was made by donald trump. and the flaws of that deal, which called for an immediate exit of all u.s. troops with no lingering presence, with a limited way to do counterterrorism strikes in the future, those were from the previous administration, that agreement. >> and people should just keep that longer lens both offered by julian and by matt dowd as we process all the things that you, colonel jack, have talked about. it is a complicated picture. we'll look forward to the rest of president biden's interview with george stephanopolous and continue to follow this with all your help. julian barnes, colonel jack jacobs, thank you for starting us off this hour. matt dowd sticking around. when we return, much more on the breaking news of last hour. president biden calling out in some of the most direct terms to date those red state governors amid rising coronavirus cases in their states.