>> m--- >> but what she had to say was important said pam's brother. >> you know, she saw a guy office at the time. >> and that man she said was carrying a bag. >> what did he do with the bag? >> put it in his car. >> that was the stuff he took out of the office. >> and who was that man? >> from this point, the state's emotional witness was certain. >> that man was the man. >> versions never found the murder weapon, but among the gearshift in kirk's car, gunshot residue said this forensic scientist. >> that gearshift handle either had gunshot residue related or was in the environment of a discharged firearm. >> but remember the friends and family who said pam told them,