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practice?" >> i had actually kind of looked at todd as kind of a "guy's guy". >> you enjoyed their company. >> we did. >> enjoyed todd a little more than rachel, maybe. >> i knew her less well than i knew todd, i feel. i feel like we were both in the same place in our lives, but sort of moving in different circles and -- >> and she wasn't one of those people who kind -- you immediately were attracted to or what? >> no. i don't -- i really liked her but she always seemed a little bit distant. very polite, very friendly but a little bit distant. >> you want to go over there? >> yeah. >> let's go over there. >> by 2009, rachel and todd had two little daughters eva and ariel. >> he always seemed very involved and very engaged with the kids and to me, always seemed to be trying to help rachel and give her a break. >> rachel and todd to us were like the perfect little family. >> mh-mm. >> they were both very proactive parent. >> yes. >> loving parents, caring parents as well to each other, a