i got about ten minutes from the house when i looked up the first time from 67 and was able to see fire, very briefly, but i was able to see that we did have an active burning fire. >> i went and got the scanner that we had. we had a fire police scanner because of incidents like this, so we could keep track of what was going on. >> just for your information, this is a confirmed fire, approximately 20 acres, mid slope. >> as i was listening to them, watching it get darker and darker, realizing that the planes were not going to come. >> do we have any, a way to get any aircraft down here, is there any available? >> division three, that's negative for aircraft. it's after cutoff. >> they had a very difficult time finding an access point to get to the fire. >> the fire still looks to be approximately 20-25 acres. very difficult access.