just unleashed the dogs of war and started pounding building after building. go look at photos of the city of aleppo after the russians took it apart. he is frustrated, his commanders are frustrated. they are verging into war criminal behavior by indiscriminately bombing and shelling residential areas. just breaking shortly ago, a russian attack that attacked a maternity ward. these are war crimes. unfortunately i think that's the tool they're going to reach for because they've been frustrated by their own logistic failure, their command and control failure and their strategic failure. >> what's the end game, admiral? >> i think that russia will continue to pound away on the nato and the west. we're going to continue to supply the ukrainians. a lot of this will revolve around president cherminski.