Origin weve seen from the past and present, as it tells the story of Isabelle Researching and writing the book, and its central theme, the global phenomenon of cast systems, and how it has been historically used as a tool of oppression by world powers. Joining me now is the writer, director, and producer of origins, ava duvernay. Eva, it is great to see you, thank you so much for making time for us. This was an absolutely brilliant movie as we just saw in that clip, theyre a masterpiece. And i wanted to actually start by asking you, broadly speaking, about the way you went about making this film. It was shot across three continents in just 37 days, it is based on a book that is nearly 500 pages. How did you even find a narrative arc to bring this film to life . What was the Elevator Pitch for this . Right, well there was no Elevator Pitch, because you cant take a picture to a studio and say hey guys, i want to make a movie about a cast, it doesnt go over very well. So we just didnt do, that we