temporarily in this city could be sort of spurred on by these air strikes to make their way to poland. it could cause, as they said, sort of a second wave of refugees. that is certainly a concern here on the ground, michael. >> kyle perry, live in ukraine for us. thank you so much. joining us now from krakow, poland, nbc's dasha burns. >> reporter: michael, the president talked about the long haul, talked about this being more than days, more than months, likely, that the world and poland and, of course, ukraine, will be going through all of this and the folks that we're talking to here, the ukrainian refugees, are conflicted about what to do with themselves, because on the one hand, they need to provide some sort of normalcy for their children, get kids in school, try to live life. at the same time, people are