>> maria, do you think that kevin mccarthy thought that was going to work? i mean, you're just performing for donald trump, but, i mean, we've listed through donald trump being disloyal to the people that were most loyal to him, including his vice president. is it just another example of a republican trying to show loyalty to donald trump and perhaps in the end failing because you already have matt gaetz on steve bannon's podcast saying it wasn't great. >> i have to be honest with you, zerlina. the last person i like to think about or spend any time thinking about or what's going on in this person's head is donald trump. i think that that is part of the whole issue and part of what happens is it's all about him, and i think i'm thinking about the democratic party. i'm thinking about when you read the introduction, how slim it was that build back better was able to make it through the