"moderate" versus "centrist" means. referring to the small handful of conservative democrats working to block the president's agenda as moderates does grave harm to the english language and unfairly maligns my colleagues who are actually moderate yet by and large understand the stakes of this historic moment. so correct me if i'm wrong here, should the c term moderates be t out to pasture when you're manchin, out joe kyrsten sinema. should they be called conservative democrat or rightwingbe democrats? >> well, ayman, i would call them centrists. and look, i served with kyrsten sinema for four years. she has a strong preference for bipartisan e legislation, numbe one because she thinks it's more durable. when bills pass with support of