what we are hearing from ukraine is -- i heard this when i was covering zelenskyy in munich in march at the forum. they are out of ammunition. they need american ammunition. contrary to what president trump -- former president trump has been saying, the europeans have outpaced us in spending this year. while we have had that senate package sitting and not voted on in the house, they need air defenses. they need atacms. russia has long-range missiles from north korea. >> thanks for having me on. i think i have had multiple trips to ukraine. i've come back generally optimistic about the ukrainians' prospects. this one was by far the most disturbing trip. the main challenges arise from what amounts to a complete shutdown of support from the u.s. for the past six months. it's resulted in major short
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