testified to that earlier today, that brought the attention of donald trump directly eye to eye with her. now they began asking her further questions, she said she did not think that she would be able to withstand the pressure and be impartial knowing of the relationship and the intensity with which donald trump would be aware of that relationship. after sidebar conversation between that juror that included the judge, the judge excused her. we are down to 17 individuals. there's a lot more other potential jurors in the courtroom. if we were to go beyond those 17 to that other allotment, we are looking at a longer afternoon. are they able, before lunch, to get those five alternates? that's what we are checking on as they go through the voir dire process in asking a more straight line of questions to the jurors from the defense team right now. >> in terms of the sequence, catherine, i know we have to have -- they have to have the hearing where they would explain