They regain power. Theyre telling us. Theyre being straight about it. They will appeal lower Prescription Drug prices and raise drug prices. The Social Security and medicare. Theyll pass massive tax cuts for the wealthy, make them permanent, but they are not now individual tax cuts. Delta and the very foundation of american economy, if we dont meet their demands. Heres the thing, thats not conjecture. You dont have to just take the president s word for it. This week, in an interview with punchbowl news, House Minority leader Kevin Mccarthy, he laid out his vision as a potential speaker, and that includes holding the economy hostage, refusing to raise the debt ceiling unless his demands for spending cuts are met. Now, this all sounds familiar, it should. Congress raised the that ceiling three times when donald trump was president. The Washington Post reporting it as avoiding the market rattling, economic showdowns that Congressional Republicans had force one democratic president barack obama was in office. U. S. Soared seven trillion dollars when trump was in the administration, a healthy reminder that republicans only spent care about spending limits when a democrat is in the white house. To their credit, democrats should do something about government spending. On friday, the federal budget cut in half, fiscal year 2022, from 2. 8 trillion dollars to 1. 4. Mccarthy is also adopting the politics of the pass with the gop midterm agenda. Last month, mccarthy unveiled his commitment to america pledge, marrying new can gorgeous contract with america in 1994 but reminder, this is 2022, and in 17 days, well see if the recycled strategy will win out over democrats for solutions. Joining me now, Judith Browne dianis, a sensitive director for the advancement project. Judith, 17 days out, a lot of voters, you talk to reporters, they are nervous about the economy, how can democrats convince them not to turn the government and with it, the economy, overturn republicans . Alicia, we did polling of gen z voters and voters of color. In particular, we wanted to focus on them because we know that they are the new majority. They are the ones who will be the majority of people of color, running this country, and wanted to see where they are. So, the note to democrats is that young people, that is their number one issue, inflation. Just the goods and necessities, housing costs, but heres the thing. If they dont know which party and which candidates actually stand with them are not going to help them. Democrats have to make clear that they are with them and that they have solutions. They have to reach them where they actually are. Well talk about that in just a minute. You know, judith, alexander patrick, i dont know if you ever read her in the Washington Post, but she does a parody that i sometimes have to go back and read to make sure that i am understanding the joke she writes. A vote republican, and we guaranteed to do our level best to distract you from the economy by impeaching everybody in government, putting Marjorie Taylor greene in charge of your things. And in our spare moments, urging the Supreme Court to eliminate any rights or protections that might be lying around. It would be very funny, judith, if were not partially true. As you see it, what is at stake for the biden agenda if republicans win back both branches of congress, with houses of congress. It is everything, right . Its voting rights, its the abortion ban. We have already seen the republicans moving Congress Quickly to try to put into place and abortion ban, so we know that is there. Everything, tax rates, well have lots of tax breaks, and we will be paying tax breaks. Immigration issues, we know how horrible they are on immigration issues, so its all on the line right now, and its very scary, the idea that they might just control both the house and the senate. So, its important. I think people know what is on the line, but they cant get through all of the stag to understand who are the people that are going to help us . Who are the people that will get us out of the mess that we are in. I also find it interesting, judith, whenever you do these pollings, the number of polling, the number of issues that can sort of be seen through multiple lenses. You can talk about threats to democracy, you can understand that in the context of 16. There are other voters who are understanding and answering that question in the context of having a country where they feel that there is political polarization. On the question of crime, this is something that republicans have wanted to run on. They believe that is a winning issue for them and it has been interesting to watch democrats jiujitsu this issue back from them, as it relates to 16, and as it relates to guns and gun safety. I want you to take a listen to this moment from belt demings debate with senator marco rubio. Youve done nothing, nothing to help address gun violence and get dangerous weapons out of the hands of dangerous people. The truth of the matter is at the end of the day, americans have a Second Amendment right to protect themselves, and these colors out there, its their intent on killing as they are, they have found multiple ways to get a hold of weapons and cause must destruction. How long will you watch people being gunned down in first grade, fourth grade, high school, college, synagogues, grocery store, movie theater, a mile and a nightclub and do nothing . Heres the thing, judith, if republicans want to run on crime, it would seem they also have to grapple with this issue. That is right. Here is the nuance of this, they are running on law and order, because they dont want to talk about guns. Unfortunately, there are a lot of democrats who run on law in order to, and who are falling into the shop. Rudy, what people want is something done around gun violence prevention. They want something done about access to guns, so thats really where the sweet spot is for democrats, who continue to talk about the. In fact, in our poll, the issue step for gen z voters, in particular, first was inflation, second was Racial Discrimination and racism. Third was Abortion Access because this is after the Supreme Court, and then forth was gun violence prevention. Theyre scared. Describe to go to the mall. Scared for their younger brothers and sisters to go to school. That has got to be the nuance, and without talking about democrats, defund the police, refund the police and talk about the thing that people care about, which is the guns that are in the hands of people who we need protections for people, so that they dont have access to guns in the way we do right now. When you talk about those issues that are important to gen z, or to talk a little bit about student debt and bring in harry litman, Legal Affairs columnist for the l. A. Times. On friday, a federal appeals temporarily blocked President Bidens Student Debt Relief program. Can you talk us through what is next in the legal battle . Its really just a very brief delay, alicia. What the court said is you challenge and you want to stop everything for now, well do it for a few days until you give us the papers, and then well decide. I know that there was a fair bit of panic. Everything has been shut down, but its just a temporary risk until they can get the arguments in and decide whether or not to actually enjoy the program. Harry, it does not bode well . I would not say that, actually. All theyre saying is, we really have to queue it over, and there have been many decisions today. They said, theres no standing here. Nobody has a right to challenge it. Thats an argument in that case to. Courts do this sort of thing, just to let them get the papers in, et cetera, in case there will be reputable injuries. I think we should hold it off for a week before saying that. All right, harry, its one of those times that i am very happy to be told that i am wrong. I would be even happier to be proven wrong. Judith, hes the reason i want to bring in harry and talk about this. There is student Debt Forgiveness on its merits, put then there is also this back and forth that we are seeing play out in realtime, where you have President Biden and our colleague Jonathan Capehart interview, i want you to imagine what it will be like if republicans gain control. They are going to start undoing, dismantling what ive done. The administration had open the doors for borrowers to begin submitting their applications. This was becoming very real to people, so the possibility that something that seemed like a step forward to people could be taken away, to me, it distills in every away the threat that democrats are ready to make clear to voters. The court cases will move forward. But at the end of the day, this is a another way in which there has got to be a connection to voters. They have to make it real clear who is against this. Who is bringing these lawsuits to stop this . Its not democrat governors, right, these are the republicans. So, not only are they pushing through abortion bans, but they also want to make sure that there is no debt cancellation. So, it is pretty clear, i dont, know a good pr person, i do not even know if you have to be a good pr person to get the word out around this midterm. Because to me, it is pretty clear. I think people will be fired up if they get the right message and we get the right messengers out there telling. It julia, thank you for being with. Us can i have one yes, harry, but then you had come, back to get more time on the other side. I mean, this is all, true the failed policy. But were talking about the 300 people who are embrace the big lie. Wartime of Marjorie Taylor greene, who has said we should execute democrats. Its not just the policies, its the crazy kind of stoppage of government. Merrick garland, get your calendar out. That also should be on the ballot. Absolutely, theres so much happening in the atmosphere. Again, thank you, judith. Coming up, our theme of the hour, what if republicans win . Harry just laid it out. Miss Secretary Of StateJocelyn Benson, an election denier. They are running for office in her state and across the country. And next, the trump subpoena from the January 6th Committee. It is out. Harry tells us what we learned, and what comes next. First, Jessica Layton who is standing by with the other big stories were watching this hour at msnbc. Jessica . Hi, alicia. We continue to fall that Breaking News out of texas where investigators are working to determine a motive for that deadly shooting today at methodists dallas medical center. To Hospital Workers there were killed. Police say they did confront the gunman, and they shot him. The suspect survived, and we are told he has been moved to a another hospital. Hurricane rosslyn is now a category four storm and barreling toward Mexicos Pacific coast. 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The january Six Committee, with a fresh subpoena for former President Trump and eighth sentence for his ex advisor steve bannon. The committee wants the committee to turn over documents by november 4th, and testify week before the election. As robin, and yesterday a judge sentenced to four months in prison for contempt of congress. Bannon will remain free while he appeals. All right, lippman argues that trump enablers who took the fifth should pay the same price, writing quote, the House Committee lack the time and muscle to force them to cooperate. Now, the Justice Department should aggressively pursue their testimony and investigate their possible criminal conduct. Back with us, Los Angeles Times columnist harry litman, hes a former u. S. Attorney and a host of the podcast. Andy kroll, hes the author of a death on w street, the murder of seth rich and the age of conspiracy. All right, harry, your impressions of the subpoena. Did anything we learned yesterday surprise you . While, a, little first, it was very striking that four page letter that just eviscerated him. It was blistering. That was not part of the subpoena. So, that was just sort of added. And i think it is a little bit of a portent of what the report is going to look like. Then, there are a couple of interesting things. They wanted to know every phone he had used january 6th. So, they are on to him about this trick of grabbing an aids phone and using it so his phone does not have any records. And then finally, they subpoenaed anything about scott perry and other members of congress. While, of course, perry is a member of congress. So, it suggested they were really shining the spotlight on that one scheme where perry introduces trump to jeff clark, who is going to proceed to try to take over the department of justice, prompting a threat for everybody to reside. So, that, those little details. Otherwise, they just said give us everything. And we will see you on the fourth or 14th. But i do not think they really anticipate that he will comply. To that point, andy, trump claimed, claimed he was willing to testify during the mueller investigation. We know how that turned out. Is there anything to his strategy here other than delay, delay, delay . I cannot imagine that the former president , his lawyers especially, would want him anywhere near giving live testimony or sitting for a deposition with this committee and handing over the extensive amount of documentation that the committee asked for. As harry pointed out, the committee is asking for communications between all of these different figures who were central to trumps effort to subvert the last election. I will also mention the election or lawyer keweenaw mitchell, the constitutional scholar john eastman, and these people who were in the subpoena would have a luminous evidence, presumably, and would certainly be critical to understand trumps role in communications. But we have seen the president avoid these kinds of requests for information before, and all kinds of other litigation. Weve seen his allies plead the fifth and go out of the way to avoid cooperating with the January 6th Committee in a substantive way. Its impossible to see how trump, in this instance, as one to step forward and say, actually, i would love to sit in front of this committee and tell you what i know. And addition to all of the grandstanding, i think there is some sort of winking and nodding to his base that is like i wanted to do it, it just did not work out, continuing his narrative that is nowhere near reality. Harry, i want to ask you, congressman jamie raskin says the committee is closely examining the Secret Service. Take a listen. A number of the actions undertaken by the Secret Service have raised serious suspicions on the part of different members of the committee. And we intend to get to the bottom of that. That is a matter of utmost gravity. The Secret Service demands complete professionalism. And not political loyalty to a particular individual. Harry, to say nothing at the potential consequences for our national safety, for a national security, talk me through the potential consequences then for those agents who cover for trump. They got to get the bottom of it, and thats that number one. I dont know if they will have time. I dont think it is too li